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PostSubject: Congress Bill AC-130 Raise Minimum Wage   Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:17 pm

So like i have stated from the beginning, i donèt know how anyone can make a living with 1.2 cad a day. I wanted to raise wages so we can afford to buy and fight without getting frustrated. I have made a proposal to raise the minimum wage to 10. It may sound like a large jump but take a look at the prices for q5 weapons.

At least now they can afford at least 20 q1 weapons with some left over to buy food. In the short run it might drive a few people nuts but over time, as taxes get adjusted and vats change... i know this will benefit all Canadians and slowly boost our economy.

Spread the word and contact your local party rep to pass this bill!!!!

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PostSubject: Re: Congress Bill AC-130 Raise Minimum Wage   Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:37 pm

I did the same thing when I first got into congress.

This is silly. This is not real life. The Minimum wage does not really matter in this game. If someone is working at $1.2 then it is because they are getting weapons in return. The top paying jobs are $19-20 so this raise to $10 minimum wage will only effect those who are working in slave pits, which will affect the MU's who are already struggling.

Your proposal will not pass. You did not even discuss it on the ecanada congress forum. On top of that you did not discuss it much on this forum and did you not learn from my mistake that their needs to be discussion here before you go proposing stuff. Now you wasted one of your two proposals you are given in congress. To bad you did not run your plan past anyone else before you did this. You should learn something from it though
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PostSubject: Re: Congress Bill AC-130 Raise Minimum Wage   Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:59 pm

We need to learn to stop making proposals before discussing it.

1.2 salary is in exchange for weapons, if you don't want free weapons (and/or food) then you can work for top wage and buy your weapons
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PostSubject: Re: Congress Bill AC-130 Raise Minimum Wage   Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:25 pm

This would kill Slave Pits and nothing else, big no from me.
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PostSubject: Re: Congress Bill AC-130 Raise Minimum Wage   Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:08 pm

Big no from me too ! We got to stop doin these proposals without discussion!
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PostSubject: Re: Congress Bill AC-130 Raise Minimum Wage   Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:08 pm

Lord Beorn, your message sound familiar to me, who say party feed.
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PostSubject: Re: Congress Bill AC-130 Raise Minimum Wage   Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:47 pm

Even if you did discusses it in the ecanada forum it would still not pass since there has been a lot of discussion on it and it has never passed
some examples
https://ecanada.cc/forums/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=16819

https://ecanada.cc/forums/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=16820
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PostSubject: Re: Congress Bill AC-130 Raise Minimum Wage   Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:50 pm

Can anyone please show me where it ever said "talk here before making a bill" because I've never seen this rule....

If not... stfu Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Congress Bill AC-130 Raise Minimum Wage   Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:53 pm

Congressional Rules of Order


Article I: The Congress of eCanada

1. The Congress of eCanada is defined in the Constitution of eCanada. The Congress of eCanada has the freedom to:
a) put forward and debate any proposal as governed by the in-game rules of eRepublik or that affects the forum or irc community;
b) request information relevant to any proposal from any government or role-play organization;
c) vote on any proposal posted in forum by the Speaker of Congress or in game by a fellow congressman;
d) overturn any Presidential order with a majority of 51% of Congress or overturn any Presidential veto with the approval of 65% of Congress within 7 days of the President issuing the order or veto in question.


Article II: The Speaker

1. The Speaker of Congress is a Member of Congress, as defined in the Consitution of eCanada, whose role it is to enforce these Rules of Order to govern congressional behaviour. The Speaker may not become a Cabinet Minister or Party President or Country President without resigning the position of Speaker. The Speaker may:
a) call any Congressman or liaison to Congress to order for violating these rules;
b) impose a ban of up to one week upon any Member who takes an action is considered inappropriate;
c) archive any topic from ODC and CDC in which there has been no new message in 72 hours and no motion has been seconded.

2. The Speaker may be removed by Congress as a result of:
a) an unannounced 72 hour absence from the eCanada forum;
b) a 66% affirmative vote of non-confidence presided over by the Deputy Speaker;
c) an in-game ban or resignation that renders the Speaker no longer a Member of Congress;
d) a formal note of resignation by the Speaker.

3. a) The Speaker, upon election, has 48 hours by which he must nominate a Deputy Speaker.
b) The Deputy Speaker must be a member of Congress in good standing. Upon any resignation of the Deputy Speaker, the Speaker has 48 hours to name a new Deputy Speaker. The Deputy Speaker serves at the Speaker's leisure and may be replaced at any time by the Speaker.
c) Upon the removal of the Speaker, the Deputy Speaker shall hold a new nomination period of 24 hours followed by a voting period of 24 hours. During the duration of the new selection process the Deputy Speaker shall take the place of the Speaker.


Article II: Debates

1. The Speaker or Deputy has the duty to alert any non-Congress Member whose participation in a discussion in Open or Closed doors or in-game article has been identified as required.

2. In game proposals - Any congressman wishing to put forward an in game proposal must post their reasons either on the forums or in an article in game and allow 24hrs for discussion before proceeding with the proposal in game. The only exception being pre approved proposals such as funding transfers from an approved budget. If posted in game it is the duty of the poster to alert congress.

3. Forum proposals - Any congressman wishing to make a proposal that can not be made in game must post it in ODC or CDC, depending on the nature of the proposal. There must be a minimum 24hrs debate before the speaker may move the proposal to a vote. The Speaker may choose to extend the length of a debate but may not shorten it.

4. During a debate any member of Congress may make a motion to amend the measure being debated. The proposal originator may choose to enact the amendment or disregard it. The originator has the final say on the wording and layout of the proposal to be voted on.

5. Motions of non-confidence leading to an in-game Presidential impeachment may bypass the 24 hour debate time if the current President has taken control of the government or military for nefarious purposes. All other motions of non-confidence must be discussed for a period of no less than 24 hours.

Article III: Voting

1. It is the Speaker’s duty to set the length and ratification requirements for a vote taking place on the forums. Votes must run for a minimum 24hrs and require a quorum of 40% of congress as determined by the appropriate forum user-group to be valid, the exception being an impeachment vote, which must be a minimum 48hrs and requires a 50% quorum of Congress members as determined by the appropriate forum user-group. The speaker may extend any vote by 24hrs for a maximum of two times. If, at the end of that time, a clear result is not achieved then the vote is declared to have failed.

2. Unless the speaker gives another option, Members of Congress may only choose to voice an affirmative or negative vote or to abstain. The Speaker must declare what will be accepted as a valid response when presenting the vote. A Member may change their vote until the conclusion of the vote by explicitly stating the change. At the conclusion of the vote the Speaker must tally all votes and announce the results in the voting thread.

3. In order for a vote to be considered valid the Speaker must open a polling thread where Members may register their votes either by replying in the thread or by using the forum polling option. Unless otherwise stated, all votes require a minimum quorum of 40% of congressmen as shown by the forum user group with a simple majority of votes cast to pass.


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3. For the purposes of this document a “simple majority” shall refer to at least 51% of all votes cast, excluding abstentions.

Article V: Rules of Decorum

1. The Speaker may authorise the Deputy to start and/or close votes by posting such authorisation in ODC. These powers will be automatically assumed if the Speaker is on a Leave of Absence either notified or AWOL.

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PostSubject: Re: Congress Bill AC-130 Raise Minimum Wage   Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:55 pm

Thank you.... no one ever told me this before..... geesh.
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PostSubject: Re: Congress Bill AC-130 Raise Minimum Wage   Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:01 pm

You can found all this rule on eCanada forums, eCanada law repository.

Here's the link: https://ecanada.cc/forums/viewforum.php?f=47
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PostSubject: Re: Congress Bill AC-130 Raise Minimum Wage   Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:23 pm

Its all stickied in the Congress Section.
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PostSubject: Re: Congress Bill AC-130 Raise Minimum Wage   Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:20 pm

We had a big arguement when Lord Beorn did this. I'm pretty sure everyone is told to read that, that's what I remember from my terms in congress.
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PostSubject: Re: Congress Bill AC-130 Raise Minimum Wage   Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:42 pm

Julian As a Congress-member
4. I believe I have the job of not just answering for myself when voting but for answering for the UPC.
(this indicates to me that you should talk things over with the party at the very least)
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PostSubject: Re: Congress Bill AC-130 Raise Minimum Wage   Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:46 pm

Lord Julian Moretti wrote:
Can anyone please show me where it ever said "talk here before making a bill" because I've never seen this rule....

If not... stfu Smile
If I don't get a chance to discuss legislation, then I'm not voting for it.
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PostSubject: Re: Congress Bill AC-130 Raise Minimum Wage   Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:49 pm

Funky Hum24n wrote:
Lord Julian Moretti wrote:
Can anyone please show me where it ever said "talk here before making a bill" because I've never seen this rule....

If not... stfu Smile
If I don't get a chance to discuss legislation, then I'm not voting for it.


are you here because CPF forums are as dead as you say they are?
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PostSubject: Re: Congress Bill AC-130 Raise Minimum Wage   Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:54 pm

Lord Beorn wrote:
Funky Hum24n wrote:
Lord Julian Moretti wrote:
Can anyone please show me where it ever said "talk here before making a bill" because I've never seen this rule....

If not... stfu Smile
If I don't get a chance to discuss legislation, then I'm not voting for it.


are you here because CPF forums are as dead as you say they are?
Because your forum is the only active one in eCanada besides our national forum.

I'm not sure why you use this... obsolete thing. Yet you do, so I'm here.
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PostSubject: Re: Congress Bill AC-130 Raise Minimum Wage   Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:17 pm

this might even be more active then eCanada forum.

Just think of all the other discussions taking place, if only we were masked members
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PostSubject: Re: Congress Bill AC-130 Raise Minimum Wage   Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:27 pm

We're only active because I enjoy spamming
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PostSubject: Re: Congress Bill AC-130 Raise Minimum Wage   Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:32 pm

funny shit is that everyone can see our announcements and polls
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PostSubject: Re: Congress Bill AC-130 Raise Minimum Wage   Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:37 pm

Lord Beorn wrote:
this might even be more active then eCanada forum.

Just think of all the other discussions taking place, if only we were masked members

you're in SoA, so you don't get the member masking, Chewy Pointed out she is in the old CVP party, so she doesn't get member masking.
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PostSubject: Re: Congress Bill AC-130 Raise Minimum Wage   Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:48 pm

Ardikus wrote:
Chewy Pointed out she is in the old CVP party, so she doesn't get member masking.


Alright I'll just stop joining in discussions feel free to delete my account


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PostSubject: Re: Congress Bill AC-130 Raise Minimum Wage   Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:53 pm

Chewytaz wrote:
funny shit is that everyone can see our announcements and polls

funnier still is that with you and me not members this forum has lost I think half of its activity (going off post bumbers)
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